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		<title>By: In Search of the American Traveler at New York Traveler.net</title>
		<link>http://newyorktraveler.net/expecting-too-much-aka-travelphilosophism/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>In Search of the American Traveler at New York Traveler.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have a &#8220;polemic&#8221; when traveling? Why must we travel for money, for recognition, or to change how the world perceives us? Why can&#8217;t we travel just to meet new people and make new friends and spread the joy of being [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have a &#8220;polemic&#8221; when traveling? Why must we travel for money, for recognition, or to change how the world perceives us? Why can&#8217;t we travel just to meet new people and make new friends and spread the joy of being [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Other people's blogs : NYCO&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://newyorktraveler.net/expecting-too-much-aka-travelphilosophism/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Other people's blogs : NYCO&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 09:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New York Traveler does not believe that travel will save the world. [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://newyorktraveler.net/expecting-too-much-aka-travelphilosophism/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life is (motivated) self-interest.  I don&#039;t deny either need or conflict.  But neither war nor greed are necessary conditions of life.  Greed is about taking more than is needed; war is violent conflict.  They exist, they will likely never be eliminated.  But they aren&#039;t mandatory.  And they can both be reduced if we manage what we&#039;ve got in by sustainable practices.

This doesn&#039;t happen if people turn up their iPods and refuse to get involved.  In that case, yeah, greed and war are inevitable.  But I can&#039;t take the cynical view that we&#039;ve come so far just to throw up our hands and say &quot;too hard, too confusing, I want my MTV.&quot;  I&#039;ve been places where that way of thinking just doesn&#039;t enter in to the picture, and I&#039;ve been places where it IS the picture.  Which category does this country fall into?

Conflict is boring.  I want to see what people can do when they pool resources.  That&#039;s the real rush - not competition.

[sentenced edited due to explicit language] As long as people focus on money as the source of &quot;happiness,&quot; they&#039;ll discard the larger resources of tradition, volunteering, community...

We&#039;ve got to move beyond the acute narcissism we&#039;re living under, turn off the TV and TALK to one another.  Not via the &#039;net, not via texting: eyes-open, roll-up-your-sleeves, hands-on &quot;What-ails-thee-brother.&quot;

I&#039;m not talking about hippies and communists, and we&#039;ll never progress if we keep reverting to those icons.  They&#039;re extinct.  We need a new table to work from.

I&#039;ve seen it work and I&#039;ve seen it fail - and the traveler&#039;s laments are always the same: &quot;Why don&#039;t we have that back home?&quot; joined with &quot;Why can&#039;t these people have what we do back home?&quot;  But I promise it&#039;ll never happen if people wait to have it sold to them.

It may never be paradise but it doesn&#039;t have to be hell, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life is (motivated) self-interest.  I don&#8217;t deny either need or conflict.  But neither war nor greed are necessary conditions of life.  Greed is about taking more than is needed; war is violent conflict.  They exist, they will likely never be eliminated.  But they aren&#8217;t mandatory.  And they can both be reduced if we manage what we&#8217;ve got in by sustainable practices.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t happen if people turn up their iPods and refuse to get involved.  In that case, yeah, greed and war are inevitable.  But I can&#8217;t take the cynical view that we&#8217;ve come so far just to throw up our hands and say &#8220;too hard, too confusing, I want my MTV.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve been places where that way of thinking just doesn&#8217;t enter in to the picture, and I&#8217;ve been places where it IS the picture.  Which category does this country fall into?</p>
<p>Conflict is boring.  I want to see what people can do when they pool resources.  That&#8217;s the real rush &#8211; not competition.</p>
<p>[sentenced edited due to explicit language] As long as people focus on money as the source of &#8220;happiness,&#8221; they&#8217;ll discard the larger resources of tradition, volunteering, community&#8230;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got to move beyond the acute narcissism we&#8217;re living under, turn off the TV and TALK to one another.  Not via the &#8216;net, not via texting: eyes-open, roll-up-your-sleeves, hands-on &#8220;What-ails-thee-brother.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about hippies and communists, and we&#8217;ll never progress if we keep reverting to those icons.  They&#8217;re extinct.  We need a new table to work from.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen it work and I&#8217;ve seen it fail &#8211; and the traveler&#8217;s laments are always the same: &#8220;Why don&#8217;t we have that back home?&#8221; joined with &#8220;Why can&#8217;t these people have what we do back home?&#8221;  But I promise it&#8217;ll never happen if people wait to have it sold to them.</p>
<p>It may never be paradise but it doesn&#8217;t have to be hell, either.</p>
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		<title>By: windyridge</title>
		<link>http://newyorktraveler.net/expecting-too-much-aka-travelphilosophism/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>windyridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am enjoying the banter and the post. I have to say I agree with Mrs. Mecomber about human nature and greed. As long as man exists, so will war. It&#039;s all about those precious resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am enjoying the banter and the post. I have to say I agree with Mrs. Mecomber about human nature and greed. As long as man exists, so will war. It&#8217;s all about those precious resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Mecomber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Mecomber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awwww! Can&#039;t we just all get along?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awwww! Can&#8217;t we just all get along?</p>
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